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Recommendation for Fast Wintel Computer?
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David Kaye
2015-01-27 23:26:45 UTC
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I want to do some substantial video production and wanted to know of any
recommendations for Windows platform computers. Intel or AMD or whatever, I
don't care. Looking to spend less than $1500 if I can. The rendering that
now takes 3 hours on my XP running a P4 I'd like to be able to do in 10
minutes. Ideas?




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Steve Pope
2015-01-27 23:33:59 UTC
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Post by David Kaye
I want to do some substantial video production and wanted to know of any
recommendations for Windows platform computers. Intel or AMD or whatever, I
don't care. Looking to spend less than $1500 if I can. The rendering that
now takes 3 hours on my XP running a P4 I'd like to be able to do in 10
minutes. Ideas?
You could see if Central Computer would build a machine for you
within this budget that performs well enough. They have an online
pricing tool.

For major manufacurers I still like Lenovo.

The other direction is gaming computers, but I'm unable
to parse the noise from that universe.


Steve
sms
2015-01-28 22:24:58 UTC
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Post by David Kaye
I want to do some substantial video production and wanted to know of any
recommendations for Windows platform computers. Intel or AMD or whatever, I
don't care. Looking to spend less than $1500 if I can. The rendering that
now takes 3 hours on my XP running a P4 I'd like to be able to do in 10
minutes. Ideas?
You could see if Central Computer would build a machine for you
within this budget that performs well enough. They have an online
pricing tool.
For major manufacurers I still like Lenovo.
The other direction is gaming computers, but I'm unable
to parse the noise from that universe.
Steve
A custom system from Central is how I'd go if you don't want to put it
together yourself. An off-the-shelf system is going to require
additional hardware for video editing anyway (larger drives, more
memory, better video card).

The hardware I'd consider is the following (may cost more at Central):

$ 60 LIAN LI PC-7B case
$122 Gigabyte GA-Z97-D3H motherboard
$300 Gigabyte GV-N760OC-4GD graphics card
$130 16GB DDR3 Memory
$336 WD40EFRX x 2 4TB drives
$310 Intel Core i7-4790 3.6GHz Haswell Processor
$130 Corsair RM750 power supply
$ 60 Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
$ 25 DVD-RW
$ 13 3.5" card reader
$ 25 Fan/Temperature Controller
$ 50 fans, cables

The reason for Gigabyte versus Asus is that, if you want to do so, you
can also run OS-X pretty easily on Gigabyte motherboards. For video
production a lot of people prefer Apple Final Cut Pro. However since
Apple discontinued the expandable Mac Pro line a lot of those that are
doing non-linear video editing with Final Cut Pro are rolling their own
Mac Pros because they don't like the design, the lack of expansion
capability, or the price, of the current Mac Pro line.
Roy
2015-01-28 07:18:08 UTC
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Post by David Kaye
I want to do some substantial video production and wanted to know of any
recommendations for Windows platform computers. Intel or AMD or whatever, I
don't care. Looking to spend less than $1500 if I can. The rendering that
now takes 3 hours on my XP running a P4 I'd like to be able to do in 10
minutes. Ideas?
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If you want Intel, the fastest "consumer" grade seem to be the 4th
generation i7 "Extreme Edition" chips. The i7-5960X has 8 cores but
costs more than $1K

Here are some reviews

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-5960x-haswell-e-cpu,3918.html
David Kaye
2015-01-28 08:55:39 UTC
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If you want Intel, the fastest "consumer" grade seem to be the 4th
generation i7 "Extreme Edition" chips. The i7-5960X has 8 cores but costs
more than $1K
Here are some reviews
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-5960x-haswell-e-cpu,3918.html
Thanks for the help. I don't care if it's Intel or AMD as long as I can
build video projects a lot faster than I'm managing so far. I'm not averse
to spending over $1k for this because in the long run it will pay for
itself.




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2015-01-28 20:32:50 UTC
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Post by David Kaye
I want to do some substantial video production and wanted to know of any
recommendations for Windows platform computers. Intel or AMD or whatever, I
don't care. Looking to spend less than $1500 if I can. The rendering that
now takes 3 hours on my XP running a P4 I'd like to be able to do in 10
minutes. Ideas?
Lenovo ThinkCentre M93p. Get the one in the tower case. Add another 8GB
of memory. Think about getting the one without the ATI video card and
then add your own high end video card.
Bhairitu
2015-01-29 00:46:26 UTC
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I want to do some substantial video production and wanted to know of any
recommendations for Windows platform computers. Intel or AMD or whatever, I
don't care. Looking to spend less than $1500 if I can. The rendering that
now takes 3 hours on my XP running a P4 I'd like to be able to do in 10
minutes. Ideas?
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I would think as others here that a gaming computer would be a good
choice and there are some fast ones for under $1000. I edit video on a
Windows 7 64-bit 4-core that is 4 years old that encodes a video fairly
fast. How long are the videos and what resolution? And what codec? I
recently tried the H265 which takes forever or as Netflix says about 10x
as long but it produces a video file about half the size of a H264
encoded file.

I've seen the game machines on sale at Fry's. They did used to have
"media" machines but I haven't seen that designation in quite a while.
The Win7 I use is an Acer and was designated as a "media" machine. It
was $500.

This Linux box could use a chip upgrade as the AMD chip in it is missing
instructions to do a VM emulation for Android emulators. On Linux you
can just plug in a new CPU and away you go. Can't do that with Windoze.
sms
2015-01-29 01:36:24 UTC
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Post by David Kaye
I want to do some substantial video production and wanted to know of any
recommendations for Windows platform computers. Intel or AMD or whatever, I
don't care. Looking to spend less than $1500 if I can. The rendering that
now takes 3 hours on my XP running a P4 I'd like to be able to do in 10
minutes. Ideas?
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I would think as others here that a gaming computer would be a good
choice and there are some fast ones for under $1000. I edit video on a
Windows 7 64-bit 4-core that is 4 years old that encodes a video fairly
fast. How long are the videos and what resolution? And what codec? I
recently tried the H265 which takes forever or as Netflix says about 10x
as long but it produces a video file about half the size of a H264
encoded file.
I've seen the game machines on sale at Fry's. They did used to have
"media" machines but I haven't seen that designation in quite a while.
The Win7 I use is an Acer and was designated as a "media" machine. It
was $500.
This Linux box could use a chip upgrade as the AMD chip in it is missing
instructions to do a VM emulation for Android emulators. On Linux you
can just plug in a new CPU and away you go. Can't do that with Windoze.
The difference is that a gaming machine needs a very good graphics card
but can get by with a less powerful CPU, while video encoding benefits
from a faster CPU and less from a more powerful graphics card.

The new Mac Pro uses Xeon processors and you can have multiple
processors with Xeon, something you can't do with the Core i7
processors. There is probably a benefit to going with Xeon motherboard
that can have multiple processors.
(null)
2015-01-29 03:48:45 UTC
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Post by Bhairitu
Post by David Kaye
I want to do some substantial video production and wanted to know of any
I would think as others here that a gaming computer would be a good
choice
The difference is that a gaming machine needs a very good graphics card
but can get by with a less powerful CPU, while video encoding benefits
from a faster CPU and less from a more powerful graphics card.
That used to be true before GPU offloading became available. Note that the
OP said "video production" and not just "video encoding".
sms
2015-01-29 12:48:27 UTC
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Post by Bhairitu
Post by David Kaye
I want to do some substantial video production and wanted to know of any
I would think as others here that a gaming computer would be a good
choice
The difference is that a gaming machine needs a very good graphics card
but can get by with a less powerful CPU, while video encoding benefits
from a faster CPU and less from a more powerful graphics card.
That used to be true before GPU offloading became available. Note that the
OP said "video production" and not just "video encoding".
Just be sure that whatever application is being used can take advantage
of processing on the graphics card.
b***@MIX.COM
2015-01-30 04:24:06 UTC
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The new Mac Pro uses Xeon processors and you can have multiple
processors with Xeon, something you can't do with the Core i7
processors. There is probably a benefit to going with Xeon motherboard
that can have multiple processors.
There's lots of info here -

http://www.boxxtech.com/solutions/media-entertainment
http://blog.boxxtech.com/2014/11/07/winter-2014-workstation-hardware-guide/

Yes, this stuff is somewhat (to far..) above the OP's price range.

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sms
2015-01-29 12:51:33 UTC
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Post by David Kaye
I want to do some substantial video production and wanted to know of any
recommendations for Windows platform computers. Intel or AMD or whatever, I
don't care. Looking to spend less than $1500 if I can. The rendering that
now takes 3 hours on my XP running a P4 I'd like to be able to do in 10
minutes. Ideas?
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sms
2015-01-31 02:59:33 UTC
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Post by David Kaye
I want to do some substantial video production and wanted to know of any
recommendations for Windows platform computers. Intel or AMD or whatever, I
don't care. Looking to spend less than $1500 if I can. The rendering that
now takes 3 hours on my XP running a P4 I'd like to be able to do in 10
minutes. Ideas?
Look at
<http://www.costco.com/HP-ENVY-810qe-Desktop-%7c-Intel-Core-i7-%7c-Blu-Ray-%7c-4GB-Graphics.product.100156527.html>.
If you buy it with the Costco Amex card you end up with a three year
warranty at no extra cost.
Roy
2015-01-31 06:35:23 UTC
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Post by David Kaye
I want to do some substantial video production and wanted to know of any
recommendations for Windows platform computers. Intel or AMD or whatever, I
don't care. Looking to spend less than $1500 if I can. The rendering that
now takes 3 hours on my XP running a P4 I'd like to be able to do in 10
minutes. Ideas?
Look at
<http://www.costco.com/HP-ENVY-810qe-Desktop-%7c-Intel-Core-i7-%7c-Blu-Ray-%7c-4GB-Graphics.product.100156527.html>.
If you buy it with the Costco Amex card you end up with a three year
warranty at no extra cost.
Here is some info in picking a CPU

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

The machine above is an i7-4790 which rates 10113. Its very good for
the price ($339)

The i7-5820K is faster (12981) and still $378 price for the processor.

http://www.portatech.com/products/product.cshtml?ID=86294&O=86273,86296&r=g&origin=product-search&kwd=&source=pla&gclid=CjwKEAiA9KymBRD6g6iOvv2joU0SJAB0vRQyyV3HP2qg82fEsqpY-X5CgkvPW8G2BDP_6qNJmCF8FxoCKvjw_wcB

or

http://tinyurl.com/qzfkr93

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