Post by Jeff Liebermann Post by sms
It's one of the only current, brand new, phones that will
work Page Plus because it's 3G only (4G LTE capable phones can't be used
on Page Plus without some serious flashing and a "donor phone").
Not exactly. Most 4G phones can be hacked to disable 4G and work on
The problem with 4G is that Verizon, in its infinite wisdom, programs
the LTE phones to default to 4G. The phone will try to connect via 4G
forever, resulting in an inability to login to the network, and to
make a call. The problem would easily be solved if Verizon would
allow the user or MVNO to disable 4G, but that's not happening. Page
Plus is aware of the problem, but has decided not to irritate Verizon
by providing a workaround, even to their own dealers. So, people and
dealers resort to do-it-thyself solutions. Lots of how-to's on the
The catch is that once the phone has been hacked for 3G only, the
firmware cannot be upgraded without first re-enabling 4G. The result
is that the phone is stuck with an old Android version. There are
some tricks to get around this, but they're not easy.
Drivel: My PagePlus phone bill averages about $15-$20/month for
300-400 mins/month usage.
I bit the bullet and am paying for the $29.95 plan for three of us, $12
for one of us. The 250 minute allowance wasn't sufficient on the $12
plan. So I'm now paying about $100 per month for four Android phones
which is too much. On Ting I think I'd be at about $60 per month but of
course there is the initial cost of buying compatible handsets.
The standard complaint on Sprint, and presumably Ting, is that even
though they permit Verizon roaming (voice/text only on Ting), the phone
won't roam if it detects even the slightest Sprint signal even if the
signal is too weak to place or receive calls. Since Sprint operates at
1900 MHz, and has fewer towers than Verizon, coverage is guaranteed to
be much poorer in most areas. Sprint consistently gets much poorer
ratings than Verizon or AT&T for coverage.
Sprint phones used to have a way to force roaming but of course Sprint
doesn't want its customers to roam because it costs them money so that
feature isn't present on any newer phones.
There are two ways to force Verizon roaming on Sprint/Ting:
1) Turn off the 1900 MHz CDMA Radio (except in areas where Verizon is
1900MHz only like most of Florida). The Roam Control app does this but
it works only on a limited number of phones.
2) Modify the PRL to one that allows roaming onto Verizon towers.
Sprint/Ting will be very unhappy if you are constantly roaming onto
Verizon so forced roaming should be used sparingly, and if you modify
the PRL it's not a change you can easily make as the need arises.
For now I'm sticking with Page Plus, but unless they do something about
the handset situation I will leave. It's not just that I can only use
older phones, it's that the older phones no longer have fresh
replacement batteries available and old-stock Li-Ion batteries are not good.
I'm waiting for Ting to support more phones with the new Sprint LTE band
The Nexus 5 now supports it, and is a good deal as far as unsubsidized
smart phones go, but it's still a tad pricey. But at least it's usable
with GSM networks as well so I could use it when traveling, or move to
Cricket if Ting proved unusable.